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Drop this or take it to PMs
1:45 PM
it's pretty petty to fight over this
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am i breaking a rule here? (edited)
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What's the name of this channel?
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not an answer to the question, but i take your point
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Deleted User 6/4/2018 4:53 PM
hello?
4:54 PM
eh
4:54 PM
oh god
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Alo
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I still can't fathom how the human brain can create... an entirely different person from who you are
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wow
5:00 PM
I am in absolute awe
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Abvieon {Alex} 6/4/2018 5:01 PM
I think the majority of people were when they first found out about this blobsmile
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Deleted User 6/4/2018 5:02 PM
even though I can fathom that a brain is just a machine and kind of like...
5:02 PM
Entirely different person is quite debatable.
5:02 PM
a computer that can run many apps at once
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I kind of find it amusing that people are always so amazed. o.o
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Deleted User 6/4/2018 5:03 PM
but like
5:03 PM
wow
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I just accepted it as a thing you can do.
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Abvieon {Alex} 6/4/2018 5:03 PM
It was so intriguing to me when I first learned about it that I immediately knew it was something I wanted to do
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My amazement came later when my girls did unexpected things.
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Deleted User 6/4/2018 5:04 PM
...unexpected... things?
5:05 PM
I am absolutely in awe of the beauty of the brain rn
5:06 PM
even though I get that it doesn't seem like a werid thing to do
5:06 PM
it's just like with... computers
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hotswitching between many apps @ once was absolutely alien tech in DOS times
5:07 PM
yet here we are, probably running the browser, the explorer shell and all of these different smaller apps in the background
5:08 PM
IDK if I wanna do it though
5:08 PM
maybe I'll start creating my own tulpa after the summer break starts
5:09 PM
OOOOOH
5:09 PM
I wanna be alien and werid!
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and stuff
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just like you guys
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we'll all be weridos together
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...anyone even here?
5:14 PM
I'm sorry for calling y'all weridos
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You certainly seem enthused.
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I'm around, but I feel like we should move to beginners or lounge here.
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Deleted User 6/4/2018 5:15 PM
okay
5:15 PM
I'll move
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I believe that you can teach your brain to believe anything given enough time and effort. I also believe that the things in your mind should not be considered fake or fiction. Think about it this way. Your mind is real. The things in your mind influence your mind, so they are obviously real. Now, I'm not saying they're "real" physical objects, because they aren't. They're in your imagination. Now, others may say that the things in your mind are not real, but that is not true. They cannot see the things in your mind, because they are in your mind, not theirs; that does not change the fact that those things do exist. They just exist specifically in your mind. Sorry, I'm terrible at explaining things, but pretty much what I'm saying is that just because something isn't physical doesn't mean it isn't real. If it can interact with anything else in any way (or vice versa, if something else can interact with it in any way), it is real. If that makes any sense.
8:46 PM
Which is why I'm not at all surprised by tulpas at all. Imagination is real, and the brain can be trained. It's such a wonderful thing, the things one can do with their mind.
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Yes. And imaginary things can have very real repercussions, as long as they’re recognised by many people. Just look at religion, money, and social structures like capitalism or communism. They’re all built up from imaginary concepts that have become very real.
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As long as people acknowledge the difference between conceptually real and literally real things, all is well.
9:26 PM
Social structures are literally real. The value of fiat currency is conceptually real, and is taken as "real" because it is practical and a literal authority says that it is.
9:27 PM
Imagination is making things that are "real" in that they exist conceptually, but they are not "real" in that they have absolutely no relevance to anything else other than your own imagination.
9:28 PM
Even our own experience of senses is "conceptually real", as taste, for example, is different between different individuals due to the way different brains process the same stimulus. The stimulus is literally real - the processing generates a "sense" that is not literally real.
9:28 PM
You can also see this when perception starts breaking down.
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Yes, those are good points.
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One time I asked an entity I met "are tulpas real" just as like, a test question basically
12:11 AM
They responded "as real as you want them to be"
12:12 AM
Caught me off guard tbh >.>
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Would anyone here consider taking a tulpas desires and opinions into account when doing things like choosing a job or where to live?
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I would consult with mine, and I'd see what they have to say.
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Like this being has a form of sentience and is important to you, but is it to such an extent that its needs can sway you in life decisions
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I'd still ultimately try and find a way to do what I want to do while still satisfying their desires.
12:57 AM
Luckily they don't like to be switched in for long swathes of time, so their desires are less lifestyle changing and more one offs or hobbies.
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Interesting
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Deleted User 6/6/2018 1:36 AM
There's something I want to do with Natt when she's fully developed
1:37 AM
This is probably going to sound stupid to most of you But I want to try giving her a body
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Go onnnn
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Deleted User 6/6/2018 1:40 AM
So before this I tried researching and and theorizing how to build an android and I decided to use things like nano biological components, a musuloskeletal system and a learning AI
1:42 AM
I kind of dropped it to work on Natt but just recently I thought about bringing it back but instead of using an AI to operate the body it's a type of neural interface. BCI (Brain controlled interfaces) if you will.
1:43 AM
All the host would need to do is hookup via neural implant or something similar
1:45 AM
It would definitely take some time for the tulpa to get used to
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But I think it's worth it
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Alright, y'all can castrate me now
1:46 AM
(metaphorically)
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It isn't stupid, but I think you are going to very rapidly run into the "harder to do than it is to say" wall when it comes to this sort of stuff. Neural implants that could be used to have a tulpa control a robot as you do your body would require a small team of PHD's with millions of dollars and a ton of funding.
1:54 AM
That said, something more simple, even an EEG(or whatever diy sort of thing you can get to pick up brain signals?) moving a motor, would be a very cool place to start if you're looking to get into that sort of thing.
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Deleted User 6/6/2018 1:55 AM
Yeah
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Deleted User 6/6/2018 2:11 AM
Im kinda just inspired by the idea of being able to interact with her on a physical level
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I say inspired
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More like motivated
2:18 AM
And if I were to get it up and running maybe I could build you guys a couple too
2:18 AM
That's me being a bit too optimistic but it's not far off
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If I get a random robot body in the mail I'll know who to blame
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Deleted User 6/6/2018 3:06 AM
Lol
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bduddy #Diana# 6/6/2018 3:30 AM
The hard part is splitting the brain. Even if some kind of transfer were possible and tulpas were physically provable, I don't see any way that one could separate out which bits were "you" and which were "your tulpa", if indeed that's even how it works, which I don't think it is.
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Yeah. This is going to require multiple PHDs and about three billion dollars in funding tbh
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something like the matrix I think would be more likely if nothing else switching would be more "effective"
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Five trillion in funding (albeit much more easily obtained funding) plus the entire intellectual might of the medical industry.
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ok vr space with headset and what not you see out one eye you tulpa sees out the other(may not be possible but I don't think anyone has tried), you use a controller to move and look around, your tulpa uses a muscle twitch reading(hooked up to your feet maybe with them possessing them) thing to move and look around
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Needs intensive tup training and about $750 worth of EMG equipment on top of the vr equipment.
5:03 AM
Doable tho
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tup training is worth $750? dang, I always thought forcing was free
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Also, PR: Cille has gained direct control over endorphin production in my body right now.
5:05 AM
Fucking hell, this is awesome.
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Okay... I'm in a pretty gnostic state right now and it's like I've activated the developer's console for my brain. The sensation of me just rubbing my leg can be painful, hot, cold, sexy, what the fuck ever, as long as I ask Cille to make it so.
5:14 AM
Damn, I wish my brain had Ethernet so I could see what happens if I run sudo apt-get install ubuntu on it
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Abvieon {Alex} 6/6/2018 5:30 AM
Hah, nice
5:31 AM
I've heard cases of tulpas being able to press a sort of mental button that causes pure pleasure
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Can observe that this is a thing. A bit like ASMR but not really I think (edited)
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bduddy #Diana# 6/6/2018 5:33 AM
yes it's called hugging
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Deleted User 6/6/2018 5:33 AM
kek
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That works too
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Much simpler
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From my perspective at least
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